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Ayala Who?
« Thread Started on Sept 15, 2004, 8:45pm »
Pardon the question (and my ignorance for that matter), but a friend was explaining to me the histori of the Tsukihime universe, he kept mentioning Ayala but he never got to explaining it.
Could someone enligthen me in the matter if its not to much to ask for :)?

Thank you so very much
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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #1 on Sept 15, 2004, 8:59pm »
Alaya is the spirit, the combined will, of humanity to survive....
This is contrasted to Gaia, the spirit of Earth....

Most of the time, they're against each other.... since human progress destroys the Earth....
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« Reply #2 on Sept 15, 2004, 9:00pm »
Oh my... it seems that you got things wrong my friend (I was the guy who told him about this) and it's ALAYA not ayala :P, LOL...

Alaya is like a balance force, being the other great force Gaia (you sure know about him considering all you WOD knowledge)... Alaya is more like a force that guides the humanity.... I'm really bad explaining this things, not unlike a certain someone who had to explain me all that things about WOD and that guy wyvern during 4 HOURS (I'm talking to you in case you haven't guessed yet).... just wait, someone will elaborate more than me... You know how much I suck at explaining things ;D...
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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #3 on Sept 15, 2004, 9:00pm »
Well, there's a character named Araya Souren in Kara no Kyoukai, and there's the Buddhist concept described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaya or http://www5a.biglobe.ne.jp/~kofuji/teachings/tea_7/tea_7_a.html - he's probably referring to the latter.

I'm not very clear on what it means in its adaptation into the Kinoko-verse, but I believe the operative sentence is "The ālaya consciousness accumulates all potential energy for the mental and physical manifestation of one's existence, and supplies the substance to all existences." Meaning it acts as a sort of repository of the collective desires, power, and will of the human race.

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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #4 on Sept 15, 2004, 9:13pm »
[quote]really bad explaining this things, not unlike a certain someone who had to explain me all that things about WOD and that guy wyvern during 4 HOURS[quote]

Its Wyrm!!!! not Wyvern, Wyverns are mythological pseudo dragons(smaller, Lionesque features and a Scorpion tail).

For the rest of you Thanks alot , that clear up alot of things (and sorry for the mane mispelling), but now my morbid curiosity ask the cuestion "where the hell did Gaia and alaya come from?"

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Is it me or you guys refere to Gaia as a guy ? :-/
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« Reply #5 on Sept 15, 2004, 9:20pm »

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Its Wyrm!!!! not Wyvern, Wyverns are mythological pseudo dragons(smaller, Lionesque features and a Scorpion tail).


hehe... you know of my short attention span so don't mind that...
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« Reply #6 on Sept 15, 2004, 9:39pm »
Gaia? probably big bang... and Alaya would have appeared humans created first civilization...
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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #7 on Sept 16, 2004, 2:23am »

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For the rest of you Thanks alot , that clear up alot of things (and sorry for the mane mispelling), but now my morbid curiosity ask the cuestion "where the hell did Gaia and alaya come from?"

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Is it me or you guys refere to Gaia as a guy ? :-/


Well, given how Gaia died in Angel Note, I'd say Gaia began its existence when the Earth got the ability to support life....

And for Alaya, I'm agreeing with sssssz that it came up when humanity got its instinct to survive....

I consider Gaia as... well an 'it' I guess... its a spirit....
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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #8 on Sept 16, 2004, 3:16am »

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And for Alaya, I'm agreeing with sssssz that it came up when humanity got its instinct to survive....


Dang, you haven't finished reading Angel Notes and you have such a deep understanding already ;D
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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #9 on Sept 16, 2004, 4:12am »

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Dang, you haven't finished reading Angel Notes and you have such a deep understanding already ;D


I'm actually just basing this off from two facts:
1. The two have been defined as spirits for a certain will (i.e. survival of something)
2. Based on what was said in one of the older threads where it was stated that Gaia DID die... and what its effects were.

And where the heck I got the rest? Speculations, assumptions, and my tangled knowledge based on the main site (with a few things I picked up from the threads). ;D
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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #10 on Sept 16, 2004, 12:09pm »
We study. We do our homework. That's all.
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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #11 on Sept 16, 2004, 5:37pm »
What I want to know is how Gaia died but there are Types for like Pluto and Saturn. Its not like they're exactly hospitable. Or Mercury for that matter.

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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #12 on Sept 16, 2004, 6:42pm »

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What I want to know is how Gaia died but there are Types for like Pluto and Saturn. Its not like they're exactly hospitable. Or Mercury for that matter.

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Great... that throws the support life theory out the window.... neeed another....

They started since their cores were molten lava? AArrgg... not sure about Pluto....

Ahhh... since they were formed from spacedust and gravity....
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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #13 on Sept 16, 2004, 6:45pm »
creative licencings on Kinokos part to make changes on the specifics of the planets.. ;D
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Re: Ayala Who?
« Reply #14 on Sept 16, 2004, 6:56pm »
Hmm, did he make some alterations then like having Mercury with some form of life?

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