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« Reply #30 on Jan 21, 2006, 6:19am » | |
But of course you have to take in other issues like the skill of the master and the skill of the vampire. Like Satsuki(using her as a base since she's a young vampire) would probably have her hands full fighting Saber with Rin for her master. Saber could probably win too. But thats to say if Satsuki hasn't really developed her abilities. Now if Satsuki uses her Reality Marble, Saber would be in real trouble. I guess its almost like being in Unlimited Blade Works. But a hell lot more dangerous I guess. And all vampires I assume have the ability to hypnotize. Saber does have her advantages... like one being having a damn sword.
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« Reply #31 on Jan 21, 2006, 10:26am » | |
Satsuki's Reality Marble- Depletion Garden. Supposedly its effect is to dry everything in its area and it reflects her dry and barren heart. I'm not sure how much a drying effect would have on a heroic spirit(although Saber is a servant but not a spirit and indeed alive I heard) but the master would get dehydrated and turn into dust I suppose. The only real examples we have of Depletion Garden is in Melty Blood, and thats a combo smacking of dry leaves which doesn't say much. Arcueid's Marble Phantasm lets her make anything, but she only makes chains with them in Melty Blood.
Also Satsuki inherited Roa's power of reincarnation, or so I heard.
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« Reply #32 on Jan 21, 2006, 5:18pm » | |
I see...thanks for the information. Btw, I have another question slightly out of the topic...it is about Fate/ Hollow Ataraxia...
How is connected with Fate/Stay Night since it is said happened half year after Fate/ Stay Night and when I trace through every single scenarios in Fate/Stay Night, there is no even a single ending that all of the servants and masters survive.
Anyway the closest should be UBW scenario but even in there Rider was being defeated...
So...which one is it since in Hollow most of Servants and masters pretty much alive except for Kotomine and true assasin. Thanks and waiting for reply...
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« Reply #33 on Jan 21, 2006, 8:37pm » | |
Hollow follows like a combination of the Fate/Stay Night endings. Just like how Melty Blood doesn't seem to tie in at all with any of the Tsukihime endings. Its like a weird happy ending for everybody and nobody dies(almost).
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« Reply #34 on Jan 22, 2006, 12:07am » | |
hmmm...so in a sense it is similar as well to kagetsu touya...
ah almost forgot...this is one last question...when i play melty blood re-act final tune...i tried practice with satsuki many times but still dont find the reality marble she used...
any idea how to use it...? that's the last question and thanks for everything.
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« Reply #35 on Jan 22, 2006, 5:06am » | |
Why is it that whenever someone directly or indirectly asks a question about Last Arcs, there's a 70% chance that it's about Satsuki's Depletion Garden?  Normally I'd point to a thread, but I'm tired right now... To execute Satsuki's Depletion Garden attack, enter Blood Heat mode. Then, successfully SHIELD an enemy attack while on the ground. This will drain your remaining magic circuit and invoke her Reality Marble, Depletion Garden.
This shield during Blood Heat mode is called your "Last Arc" attack. Try doing it with other characters, too, particularly Vampire Sion, Wallachia, and Shiki Nanaya.
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« Reply #37 on Jan 22, 2006, 6:12pm » | |
Quote:| to execute Satsuki's Depletion Garden attack, enter Blood Heat mode. Then, successfully SHIELD an enemy attack while on the ground. This will drain your remaining magic circuit and invoke her Reality Marble, Depletion Garden. |
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The weird thing is, Sacchin's Last Arc is BLOCKABLE. XD I've seen the damn CPU do it a few times, but then I'm playing the earliest patch and not the latest one, I dunno if Depletion Garden is unblockable in the later patches.
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« Reply #38 on Jan 22, 2006, 7:17pm » | |
Quote:| The weird thing is, Sacchin's Last Arc is BLOCKABLE. XD I've seen the damn CPU do it a few times, but then I'm playing the earliest patch and not the latest one, I dunno if Depletion Garden is unblockable in the later patches. |
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Yeah, everything but Kohaku's Last Arc "Kohaku-ryuu Battoujutsu, Ougi~!" is blockable. Which is balanced by making it hard to shield with Kohaku. (EDIT: I'm no longer confident in this statement.) But you have a far better chance of a Last Arc actually hitting (if you can get it to execute), than with your Arc Drive, usually, just because of the nature of a shield.
Arcueid, Ciel, Ren, and Mech-HISUI are all the ones that need to shield in the air in order to perform their Last Arcs.
Going back to the topic, while it seems individuals in the Tsukihime are freakishly strong, I'd also say that their power levels at any given time could vary considerably. Shiki, as strong as he is, can't just instantly become Nanaya of his own volition, and Arcueid's been having trouble maintaining a good power level because of events and her bloodlust.
Servants, on the other hand, though they aren't as strong overall, still pack a hefty punch, and do it more consistently. And, if they want to, they can pull out their Noble Phantasms for a good surprise and good damage. Plus, they are geared for combat with extensive knowledge of it on a deeper level than Mind's Eye abilities. People like Shiki, Akiha, and Sacchin have a natural battle instinct, but lack battle experience. And killing a Master isn't going to be easy, since more than likely they'll be a mage with at least some sort of offensive power (Shirou and Shinji are notable exceptions, though also special circumstances). And would most likely have their Servants with them, anyway.
In sum... don't think so lightly of Servants!
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« Reply #39 on Jan 22, 2006, 7:31pm » | |
Servants are powerful...but in my opinion even in the battlefield, luck is also one of the factor. People like Sachinn ( I am a big fans of you as well as Saber )...of course lack of battle experience...but she has natural instict to fight and being natural to fight is something that might even servants cannot predict. It is like wild / untamed animal that pack and fight with natural stance...not some martial arts....
Being the most powerful Servant like Saber or Gilgamesh of course put them into advantages but if they face people like Arcueid Brunestud, the princess of shisou...I doubt they will last since Arcueid already live for hundreds year and I am sure she has a lot experience in battle as well.
I am new in Fate and Tsukihime so I might be wrong though...and thanks for Sachinn reality marble...
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« Reply #40 on Jan 22, 2006, 8:41pm » | |
Arcueid has only been awake and moving around for a small amount of time. Most of her life she spent hibernating.
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« Reply #41 on Jan 22, 2006, 10:12pm » | |
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Does that mean power-wise or that DAA are Servants?
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