Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #540 on Feb 13, 2006, 6:21am »
No he really did lose his memmory due to Rin's summoning messing up he only gets it back later which will probably be covered in the anime due to the Fate and UBW mixture.
Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #541 on Feb 13, 2006, 9:12am »
Well, according to the english translation of the demo, I recall he said that (approx the same thing in the anime was said).
Well, we all know that Archer, with the help of some maid moe power (in the unfamous Unlimited Maid Works doujin), can transform into Super Archer v3.0, with his X-ray Thousand Eyes that can see through clothes, so figuring out a 3 sizes girl is easy for him...that can also mean that Rin was wearing that XD
Ah, and I forgot about Shinji, I think he is just like that for the sake of showing how typical bad Master is (like old Caster one). What I like in Nasu scenario is that each character break "the rules" mentionned at the beginning (Shirou is not a proper Master, Rin improperly summon his Servant, Ilya is more than a Master, etc..)
Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #542 on Feb 13, 2006, 2:47pm »
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Was it stated in the game that Archer really lost his memory? i mean it seems feasible that he wouldn't tell Rin his real name.
It depends on the scenario. In Fate, he really does lose his memory, and I believe it's regaining it that causes him to become Gilgamesh (don't quote me on that, though). In Unlimited Blsde Works, he knows he's Shirou Emiya the entire time and simply lies about not knowing. And in Heaven's Feel, the game simply assumes everyone already know he's Shirou from the start and simply plays through like that.
Personally, I side with the Unlimited Blade Works approach here that he already knows who he is and is intentionally keeping everyone in the dark. His speech to Shirou, in fact pulled from UBW, rings heavily of drawing from personal experience, as if he's warning Shirou from already trying it himself that his idealistic approach won't work. And if the show does follow more of a UBW (or especially Heaven's Feel) approach in future episodes, this would serve to create some excellent drama, with idealistic Shirou and jaded antagonistic Shirou-Archer clashing over the proper course of heroics.
Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #544 on Feb 13, 2006, 3:29pm »
what encyclopedia? can u give me link so i can read it? thanks.
and how strong does shirou get? cause i heard stuff about him beating gilgamesh and berserker. does that mean archer is that much stronger? since he's the future shirou, so it mean he must be alot stronger then the present shirou
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Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #545 on Feb 13, 2006, 3:38pm »
The encyclopedia Arai is referring to, most likely, is an actual physical object, and all in Japanese.
Also, I suggest taking a yonder over at Moonlit World, since, that's sort of like an unspoken prerequisite before asking about additional info from here. It's something that I feel some of the more regular posters here need to actually give another read through, too.
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Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #546 on Feb 13, 2006, 3:50pm »
Rider seems to be operating more like a Lancer, using a middle-range weapon and employing lots of agility. She is not using any sort of mount. I don't see how anyone would guess she was a Rider.
I love her voice. Sakaki's seiyu works perfectly for her, though it's almost humorously odd to imagine Sakaki acting like Rider is.
Shinji is the scum of the Earth.
Why does Rider obey any command? Because she is being controlled or because she does not care?
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Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #548 on Feb 13, 2006, 4:22pm »
Rider doesn't use a middle-range weapon in particular; I'd actually call it more of an "all-range" weapon. Also, by planting the stake in Shirou, she was in a sense in control of his movements, one of the central aspects of "riding" (control and restraint). Plus, an Assassin specializes in ambush, assassination, and a one-hit kill Noble Phantasm, from what I gathered. Shirou would be dead before he knew what hit him.
About Assassin being a different Hassan Sabbah for each of the wars: I read it somewhere on the boards, from like Evo or Arai or someone else with that calibre of knowledge. Hence why there's an Assassin in the Fifth with Zabaniya - Delusional Heartbeat, and the Second with Zabaniya - Cyber Fantasy.
Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #549 on Feb 13, 2006, 4:30pm »
Rider could have killed Shirou at any time. She was waiting for him to summon Saber. When he refused, she said she couldn't take him seriously and would kill him gently.
She could have acted exactly like an Assassin, but chose not to.
I suppose that, in and of itself, is what told Archer that she wasn't Assassin.
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Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #550 on Feb 13, 2006, 5:16pm »
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Why does Rider obey any command? Because she is being controlled or because she does not care?
I think it's because she wants to win the war. She probably, if she got the grail, would want to do something to change what happened between her and her sisters. Shinji, on the other hand, I shudder to think about.
Yeah. An Assasin is naturally suited for killing the Master quickly and silently. Rider didn't do that. Also, Royal Knight's statement about the possibility that Rider was "riding" Shiro (lol, not literally. XD) is particularly accurate. She did even kind of "rein him in" when he tried to escape, by pulling on her chain.
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Re: Fate / Stay Night Anime Discussion « Reply #554 on Feb 13, 2006, 6:05pm »
She used a command spell(s) on Rider to make her follow his orders. Anyway, the encyclopedia I mentioned in the one over http://www.typemoon.com/main.html in the downloads section. But to get this a little more headed on the right track - how about a spoiler thread?
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